On the Advantage and Disadvantage of History for Life

On the Advantage and Disadvantage of History for Life Part II of Thoughts Out of Season Moreover I hate everything which merely instructs me without increasing or directly quickening my activity These are Goethe s words with which as with a boldly expre

  • Title: On the Advantage and Disadvantage of History for Life
  • Author: Friedrich Nietzsche Peter Preuss
  • ISBN: 9780915144945
  • Page: 288
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  • Part II of Thoughts Out of Season Moreover I hate everything which merely instructs me without increasing or directly quickening my activity These are Goethe s words with which, as with a boldly expressed ceterum censeo, we may begin our consideration of the worth and worthlessness of history Our aim will be to show why instruction which fails to quicken activity, why Part II of Thoughts Out of Season Moreover I hate everything which merely instructs me without increasing or directly quickening my activity These are Goethe s words with which, as with a boldly expressed ceterum censeo, we may begin our consideration of the worth and worthlessness of history Our aim will be to show why instruction which fails to quicken activity, why knowledge which enfeebles activity, why history as a costly intellectual excess and luxury must, in the spirit of Goethe s words, be seriously hated for we still lack what is most necessary, and superfluous excess is the enemy of the necessary Certainly we need history But our need for history is quite different from that of the spoiled idler in the garden of knowledge, even if he in his refinement looks down on our rude and graceless requirements and needs That is, we require history for life and action, not for the smug avoiding of life and action, or even to whitewash a selfish life and cowardly, bad acts Only so far as history serves life will we serve it but there is a degree of doing history and an estimation of it which brings with it a withering and degenerating of life a phenomenon which is now as necessary as it may be painful to bring to consciousness through some remarkable symptoms of our age.

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      Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche 1844 1900 is a German philosopher of the late 19th century who challenged the foundations of Christianity and traditional morality He was interested in the enhancement of individual and cultural health, and believed in life, creativity, power, and the realities of the world we live in, rather than those situated in a world beyond Central to his philosophy is the idea of life affirmation, which involves an honest questioning of all doctrines that drain life s expansive energies, however socially prevalent those views might be Often referred to as one of the first existentialist philosophers along with S ren Kierkegaard 1813 1855 , Nietzsche s revitalizing philosophy has inspired leading figures in all walks of cultural life, including dancers, poets, novelists, painters, psychologists, philosophers, sociologists and social revolutionaries.From the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy

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    1. ‎دوستانِ گرانقدر، علاوه بر اینکه با برخی از سخنانِ <نیچه> در این کتاب و در موردِ تاریخ مخالف هستم، متأسفانه ترجمهٔ کتاب به زبانِ فارسی، اصلاً روان و خوش فهم نبود و من به یاد دارم که زمانِ زیادی را صرفِ خواندنِ این کتاب کردم مترجمانِ این کتاب تا جایی که میتوانستند از واژه ها [...]

    2. On the Usefulness and Disadvantage of History for Life Between 1872, when his first bookDie Geburt der Tragödieappeared, and 1876, when he left the University of Basel to write in Italy, Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) wrote an enormous amount of prose, most of which he did not bring to a satisfactory completion. However, he did publish, singly, a series of short books/pamphlets he calledUnzeitgemässe Betrachtungen(Untimely Considerations), which at one point he had projected to include as man [...]

    3. I had totally forgotten what it was like to read some Neechy and now I remember what it was that I loved about reading his stuff. It’s like an alien mentality. Some of the points he makes and his insights into human nature seem as though they come from an alien that has been secretly observing us for a few hundred years. This book is about the burden with which we transpose the lessons and the fetters of history into our reality today. His point is that the real superman is the iconoclast who [...]

    4. This short booklet (basically a pamphlet) was one of Nietzsche's early writings before he became The Anti-Christ and contracted a bad case of megalomania where he would sign his letters to people as "The Crucified." The title "On the Advantage and Disadvantage of History for Life" summarizes Nietzsche's thesis with this work. Nietzsche criticizes the Germany of his time as without culture and lacking instinct, a place where a sick soulless inwardness prevails and a synthetic pseudo-kultur disgui [...]

    5. My first foray into Nietzsche has left me shaken to the core.For better or worse, he was an expert rhetorician; even as one shudders to recognize the seeds of justification for later historical atrocities in his philosophies, one cannot help but feel enamoured by his prose and the undeniable style of his arguments. So many times I gave audible way to awe, reluctantly putting the book down to copy some choice phrases into a notebook.To my view, this essay was a call to action for generations stuc [...]

    6. One star's a bit harsh. Popular history can still be understood in terms of the categories he comes up with here: all the biographies of Churchill and Reagan? Lifeless monumental history. The obsession with Americana and 'authentic,' 'simple' living? Lifeless antiquarianism. Post-colonial/post-structuralist/post-modernist history? Lifeless critical history. But then, Nietzsche was harsh, and it's only fair to be harsh back. He describes three types of historiography- 'monumental' history, which [...]

    7. In this book, Nietzsche laments over a condition that he is finding in the youth of Germany: they are lacking a personality. They have an encyclopedic knowledge of everything and are chained to the past. "The past must be forgotten if it is not to become the gravedigger of the present", he says. He identifies five problems that excess history presents for living a good life:1. Excess of a contrast between the inside and the outside. We have far too much content and too little form to present it [...]

    8. "One who cannot leave himself behind on the threshold of the moment and forget the past, who cannot stand on a single point, like a goddess of victory, without fear or giddiness, will never know what happiness is ; and, worse still, will never do anything to make others happy. The extreme case would be the man without any power to forget, who is condemned to see "becoming" everywhere. Such a man believes no more in himself or his own existence, he sees everything fly past in an eternal successio [...]

    9. نیچهدرجه ای از بی خوابی از نشخوار کردن به مفهوم تاریخی وجود دارد که به هر موجود زنده ای صدمه می زند و در نهایت آن را تباه می سازد خواه انسان باشد، خواه جماعتی از انسان ها خواه یک فرهنگ.دیوید هیومآنچه لحظات اولیه زندگی نمی توانند به ما ارزانی دارند چگونه می توان از لحظات دیگر ما [...]

    10. Every time I read a book by Nietzsche my mind gets blown and I feel more enlightened. In a mere 60 pages or so Nietzsche totally annihilates Hegelianism and the education system. The thesis of the book is that in our time Knowledge rules Life, and this will result in the end of both Knowledge and Living. Instead, we must consider Life to be the ultimate value and the thing in which our youth should be skilled. This is by far the most accessible book by this author I have ever read, so don't be d [...]

    11. I think we're so used to a sorta Hegelian dialectical understanding of history that it can be really exciting to read a book like this that so totally upends that understanding of history by its very roots.

    12. Rano Ničeovo djelo o istoriji podstaknuto je ujedinjenjem Njemačke, potragom za njemačkim nacionalnim identitetom, a samim tim i tadašnjom preokupiranošću istorijom. Niče ne piše klasičnu filozofiju istorije; on piše nesavremenu filozofiju tragajući za vezom između istorije i života. Čitanje jednog ovakvog teksta pruža posebno zadovoljstvo, jer je napisano prije Ničeove nervne rastrojenosti i sloma, ali sadrži naznake ideja koje će poslije razraditi u poznatijim djelima. Najzan [...]

    13. ما امروزی ها هیچ چیز از خود نداریم؛ فقط با پُر کردن و انباشتن خودمان از دانش، ادیان، فلسفه ها، هنرها، رسوم و اعصار بیگانه چون دایرة المعارف متحرک چیزی قابل اعتنا می شویم!به هرحال تمام ارزش دایرة المعارف ها در محتوای آنهاست نه بر عناوین نوشته شده بر روی آنها یا جلد و پوست آنها و [...]

    14. Informal notes (Not a fucking review):- Very few own the genuine need to find truth and justice. Rarer still is the ability to act by this truth- Objectivity as a definite/set fashion creates individuals with no individuality/originality. Subjectivity, not just in minor affairs of life, but likewise in the quest for truth, is critically important.(Do we agree?)- 'Strong and great righteousness' - does that exist? If yes, are there any instances?- A true historian must look to the past in order t [...]

    15. Great pamphlet, a lesser known work of Nietzsche's which (I think) is rather early in his oeuvre. The rhetoric is as potent as ever, though it actually gets really muddled at parts in a way that is unlike anything I've encountered in Nietzsche up til now. I still think it's high-quality, brushes over some of his major concerns (the morbidity of Christianity, the way someone's drives become self-destructive when filtered through too much analysis / lost in semantics) but is an altogether differen [...]

    16. Oh god this was fun. Nietzsche's confrontational writing style is such a breath of fresh air compared to so much of pre-20th century German philosophical writing. There are a lot of really good observations crammed into this small piece. The recognition that people often fetishize the past as a way of condemning the skills and talents of their own time, the ways that Christian millenarian beliefs stifle personal creativity and expression. But my favorite thing about this text is how he shows tha [...]

    17. I read (or, I at least think I read this: for, honestly, does any one really read anything as an undergraduate?) this in a philosophy of history class. At the time, I only partly knew what was going on (I do remember an insult directed towards Hegel is it possible to really understand what was going on without having done necessary cultural background reading on Nietzche and his time? This is a work of intellectual criticism as much as it is philosoph). Now that I'm older, I think I have a sen [...]

    18. Tarihin bizi yenmesindense, bizim tarihi dizginlememiz gerekir. Tarihi süslerden arındırmamız ve her süsün süsleneni sakladığını, fazlalıkların zorunluluklara düşman olduğunu unutmamamız yeni bir tarih araştırması için gereklidir. Yine tüm uydurmalara ve abartılara karşı çıkıyor ve süslerin içerisinden hakikati bulmakla meşgul oluyor Nietzsche.

    19. Nietzsche wonders about humanity's penchant for keeping history; if it is beneficial, harmful, or both. Also, he warns against the glorification of history, which is especially interesting seeing as he wrote it in late 19th century Germany.

    20. If memory serves me well, I believe Nietzsche wrote this when he was 24 or 27. I remember he was pretty young and wow, what a brain he had on him. The most optimistic work as well as some of the most insightful observation on the concept of information and history.

    21. This book is frightening. I think the intended reading from Nietzsche is some sort of prophylactic strike against the emergent historical materialist trend which (arguably) Nietzsche saw around him leading up to his death. In a way, it's Nietzsche trying to kill Marx before he was ever born.

    22. I'd read most of Nietzsche's important works before enrolling in Hans Seigfried's course so I used it as an occasion to cover some of the more obscure stuff such as this little essay about the political and ideological manipulation of "history".

    23. Great little book in its own right, but I didn't really get what was at stake in it for Nietzsche until I'd read Genealogy of Morals.

    24. Possibly the most important thing I've ever read for sorting out that demon known as nostalgia, and for knowing when people are tugging on your heartstrings with glorified histories.

    25. File this under "The wonderful things that happen when brilliant philosophers engage a single question as opposed to trying to describe everything or establish first principles for everything"

    26. I am returning to this book after a couple years, and, having remembered enjoying it the first time around, was surprised by how little I took to the writing. The concepts he presents for his different kinds of history and their importance are solid reading, and have made re-reading it a worthwhile experience. However, I found myself disappointed by the writing style, which I found devolved from rational argument into tenuously0related tangents, and so found my attention wavered particularly in [...]

    27. Historia, kulttuuri, nihilismi Pelottavan totta vielä - ja ehkä nimenomaan - runsas vuosisata myöhemmin. Erityisesti Nietzschen ajatukset koulutuksesta kiehtovat: tarkoitus, elämä, on unohdettu, ja välineestä on tullut päämäärä. Historia ei ole pelkästään negatiivista, mutta nykyinen suhtautuminen siihen (ainakin massojen) on. Helvetinmoinen pari luettavaksi Eliaden "Ikuisen paluun myytin" kanssa (olivat Turun kirjaston historianfilosofiahyllyssä vierekkäin). Tulisiko kehityksen [...]

    28. As I've come to expect from philosophers in general, Nietzsche is quite wordy and at times digresses in ways I can't follow. His overall argument is quite solid and relevant, in some places truthful and, for me, accurate.

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