The Men from the Boys

The Men from the Boys Jeff O Brien bright good looking and inching dangerously past thirty is caught between two generations the Baby Boomers and Generation X He s been with his partner Lloyd for seven years now but

  • Title: The Men from the Boys
  • Author: William J. Mann
  • ISBN: 9780452278561
  • Page: 388
  • Format: Paperback
  • Jeff O Brien bright, good looking, and inching dangerously past thirty, is caught between two generations, the Baby Boomers and Generation X He s been with his partner, Lloyd, for seven years now, but when Lloyd announces that there s no passion left between them, Jeff is sent into something of an existential frenzy Desperate not to end up alone, Jeff haunts the danceJeff O Brien bright, good looking, and inching dangerously past thirty, is caught between two generations, the Baby Boomers and Generation X He s been with his partner, Lloyd, for seven years now, but when Lloyd announces that there s no passion left between them, Jeff is sent into something of an existential frenzy Desperate not to end up alone, Jeff haunts the dance floor and roadside rest stops, finding both the sordid and the sublime in anonymous encounters But it s love he s after, so ultimately it s his bittersweet romance in Provincetown with Eduardo, twenty two and a vision of gorgeous, wide eyed youth, that lingers in his mind and seems to hold the answers he seeks This is a story of a man coming to terms with the accelerating ambiguity of his world, where men die young but old age is actively devalued It is the story of gay life today, the life being led by thousands of men trying desperately to keep up, and to discover if anything really unites gay men other than desire It is the story of how the truths of gay life are handed down from gay generation to gay generation It is the story of what separates the men from the boys.

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    About "William J. Mann"

    1. William J. Mann

      Also writes children s books under the pseudonym Geoffrey Huntington.

    320 thoughts on “The Men from the Boys”

    1. I didn’t get very far in, but that’s quite enough of that. Revelation: having characters suffer and die from AIDS does not automatically provide them with depth. At some level, apparently, shallowness remains implacable. On the plus side, there is a great deal of sex in these pages, though of an oddly non-erotic variety, as though sections had been culled from some fruity Harold Robbins novel, the tawny Bulgarian fingered my serape sort of thing. A little of this goes an awfully long way.


    2. I know that this book is like those films we love the first time we see them and then, on subsequent viewings, find them nearly intolerable. There is a sweetness that I took away from reading this book and I am not about to spoil it by rereading it and finding out that it is actually poor. Nope.


    3. After finishing William J. Mann's novel, The Men from the Boys, I couldn't tell if I liked it or not. Yes, there are certain passages that clearly show Mann is (or, at least can be) a talented writer. Yet, there was a lack of any real depth with the characters and the plot. The story centers around Jeff and Lloyd, who find their relationship falling apart once Lloyd exclaims that there's no passion left. The book jumps back and forth in time, alternating between a past summer in Provincetown and [...]


    4. An emotional read, touching and explaining so many gay life issues. Why gay couples "open" up their relationships, why gay men replace families with friends who understand them better than families, and communicate better with them than families. And perhaps most important of all, that as gays age and mature their passions become the waves of the ocean on a sunny day, the setting sun, no different than heterosexuals. A most lovely crafted story, accurately describing gay life in the 90's and mak [...]


    5. This was a challenging and confronting book that covers broad themes which dictate the way our lives play out: love, friendship, passion, relationships, family and death. I found the style of writing added to the overall emotion that the various storylines evoked from me. I did find that my attitude towards Jeff, the central character, changed several times throughout the book as at times I could relate to him completely and at other times I found him frustrating and annoying. I expect that if I [...]


    6. A really great gay novel that is both well written and extremely true to what being gay in the nineties meant. Mann is a much better writer than one could expect, a true author who does not just tell a story but write it carefully, with style, intelligence, and wit. His character are as believable as they are interesting, and it's difficult not to get attached to them and to understand what they go through. The two sequels are equally good, and the whole series really create a vast panorama of g [...]


    7. Really, really enjoyed this book. I started reading Mann's Where The Boys Are and kept hearing so much about Alister that I had to stop midway through and pick up the first book. Excellent writing, current and remarkably "real" for the circuit boy typesa must read for any gay (or straight) man


    8. I felt so gay reading thisd I loved it. I think this was my first gay novel. Even though I could not really relate to any of the characters (aside from being gay), I found this to be a good summer read. It might seem a little soap opera-ish at first, but it really deals with a lot of relationship issues that could happen to anyone. .


    9. Bought and read this soon after it came out one very fun party summer long ago in Provincetown, appropriately, and forgot about it until today. Was buried on my bookshelves. All of Mann's books are fun, realistic, erotic, quick reads, and have become records of gay life as it was before Grindr changed everything.


    10. I quite enjoyed this story. It was a hurdle at first, frustrated with Jeff's character and finding it difficult to immerse myself into the story but after the first 100 pages, I couldn't put the book down! I was compelled until the final period of the final sentenced I wanted more. Looking forward to reading the next book in the series, "Where the Boys Are." :-))


    11. this is my life well, not my life but a quarter of the way in and the writing is almost exactly like what i think in my head. slightly uncomfortable but also comforting to know it isn't just my crazy brain that feels and thinks this way. okay, took me a while. it wasn't horrible but it wasn't great. seemed more like a self-gratifying exploration than a good novel to me.



    12. Told in the first person, present tense[1], this story is from the POV of Jeff O'Brien, our narrator. The story is structured an interesting way with two years of the lives of his lover, Lloyd Griffin, and mentor, David Javitz, who has and is dying from complications of AIDS, interwoven with each other. 1994 then 1995 are interchanged throughout the course of the book, with the story following the characters in both Boston and Providence, where we are introduced into Jeff's life, his open relati [...]


    13. This was a tough one, mainly because, for nearly the entire book, the MC/narrator is a complete ass. Jeff O'Brien is vain, selfish, inconsiderate, and so self-absorbed that he can't see how his actions cause the situations he finds distasteful. Mind you, I'm sure he's a perfect representation of many gay men in the 1990s who found themselves getting too old for the party crowd, but weren't ready for adulthood just yet. He's just the type I would have run away from, screaming! Another trouble is [...]


    14. I don't read many gay novels; I burned out on them in the Nineties, since so many seemed to be about AIDS and its impact. That's why it was strange reading this one, written in 1997, now. AIDS figures into the plot, but it's more a post-AIDS look at gay relationships, why they're different, and why they're also not. Still, the story, although well-written, seems dated. Maybe it's the frank and somewhat overemphasized promiscuity, maybe it's the repeated navel-gazing done by the narrator. Clearly [...]


    15. "The Men from the Boys" by William J. Mann captures accurately the spirit of a gay generation. Infidelity, sexual desire, self-absorption, hedonism, party-mania, body cult, anonymous encounters and love in the times of AIDS - the book manages to show it with bittersweetness and and the innate ambiguity.The main characters are well chosen to highlight the experience and add personal reflections through individual life experiences that fit and compliment the themes.I found the book more descriptiv [...]


    16. I have to admit but did not know what to expect when I was pulled into the world of gay men, gay friends, gay lovers trying to figure out themselves and the prevailing question of in the early 90's where the gay culture was trying to find out what separates the men from the boys. It was hard to root for the protagonist, but the couple of Jeff and Loyd were a heartbreaking depiction of a gay relationship. Great read, cleverly written, and looking forward to revisiting these lifelong gay character [...]


    17. I'm sorry to say, I did not like this book at all. I hated the back and forth between years, it just got really confusing. Secondly I have read many MM books and this is the first that gave being gay a bad name. Educated men who are gay activists but reduce to wear a condom during the big AIDS erra, really?! They even had many friends die of AIDS. I personally didn't like the open relationship between these two characters. I am very open minded to a lot of things but to me this is a disaster wai [...]


    18. I really enjoyed this book about the ambiguities of love and relationships and look forward to reading the rest in the series. I was utterly fascinated by the idea that the gay characters create their own families and define love in a fashion that works for them. I loved the idea of the threesome together composing the happy ending. I was also pleased with the innovative structure in the novel as the chapters moved back and forth in time.


    19. Another story I enjoyed reading, even though the main character isn’t particularly likeable. I don’t like non-monogamous relationships, but these seem to be what Mann writes, taken from his own experience, I believe. In this story, Jeff’s obsession with Eduardo takes its toll on his relationship with long-time lover Lloyd, and things won’t be the same again. I’m looking forward to reading the other two stories in the trilogy.


    20. Mr. Mann is a decent writer, and his first novel contains some intriguing insights into gay relationships in the '90s. But his shifts back and forth in time were confusing, and his characters -- especially Jeff, the narrator -- are so self-absorbed and shallow that it's difficult to care about them. The only exception is Javitz, Jeff's former boyfriend and one of the three main characters in the book. I would have liked to get to know him better.


    21. Mann is a good story teller. Didnt realize this was an older book. Ha a lot of angst, sad, tumult, depressively accurate though. Had several friends die about he time this first released. Havent finished it yet.taking time to digest the messages.


    22. Fast read. Sweet and nostalgic. Sort of took me back to the mid-90s. (For the record, I've never had a beeper or cut-off denim short.:) Jeff was sort of annoying through most of the novel. He was so afraid of change.


    23. This is William Mann's first published novel. An interesting construction -- and story that rings true. Set in Boston and Provincetown MA he chronicles the change AID and HIV brought to the gay community. Great read!








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